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Dan Ladd
November 14, 2025
Commentary: It’s time for Pennsylvania to amend the Clean and Green Program
Started in the 1970s, the Clean and Green program was a well-intentioned way of providing incentives for individuals to preserve the natural resources of the commonwealth through tax breaks. By enrolling land as either agricultural use, forest reserve or agricultural reserve, they could enjoy a significant reduction in property taxes by keeping land in a natural state.
While lands enrolled in agricultural reserve had to be open for public recreation, those in agricultural use or forest reserve did not. Of course, this was back in the days before hunting leases, where a lot more privately owned woodlands were open for hunting.
Fast forward 50 years and now you have the issue of these same, now posted, woodlots creating problems for Pennsylvania’s farmers; the deer eat crops by night and then retreat to the posted land by day, thwarting any hunters who the farmer brings on his farmland.
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If people want to post their land, that’s their business, but there is no reason the state should reward them with tax breaks for doing so, essentially subsidizing their hunting leases at the expense of Pennsylvania farmers.
The legislature should amend the Clean and Green Program to require public hunter access from Forest Reserve land the same way public recreational access is required for Agricultural Reserve land.
Tax breaks should be a two-way street and not just a reward that people get simply for owning a lot of woodlands.
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79 thoughts on “Commentary: It’s time for Pennsylvania to amend the Clean and Green Program”
Agree 100% the same should also happen with land that farmers that claim crop damage but don’t allow people on the land too hunt. And I’m not talking about just anyone. I still believe In getting permission meeting in person for that. I’ve been too a few farmers that are under the crop damage claim have many tags and still have posted signs up even after visiting and trying too get permission am denied. If the damage is so bad why give a denial to decent individuals? I’m 67 have tried many times, get the same answers all the time, I have a guy well if they have 10 15 or more tags 1 guy I don’t think 🤔 can help with the damage being claimed. Just my
Opinion.
So who would be responsible to police that land and make sure that trash is not scattered everywhere, Hunters are poaching out of season, and people aren’t abusing the land. Also who’s liable for the idiots that will show up and hurt their selves?
Actually the person who posts his property thereby takes responsibility for anyone who hurts themselves. If ya don’t post it you’re not responsible unless you created a hazard. That’s a quirk of the law called the doctrine of public parks. As for litter and poaching get real. We kept our 40 acres open to hunting for 40 years and had each of those problems exactly once. Because hunters are generally good people. So why deprive everyone on account of a couple idiots? Whenever I hear someone saying stuff like that I say that’s not a reason it’s an excuse. For selfishness. You ought to think about who let you hunt before your mommy and daddy left you land
Actually I think you have this backwards – in PA posting usually relieves a landowner from liability except in few cases where reckless or willful conduct on the part of the landowner can be shown, where an ‘attractive nuisance’ such as a swimming pool that draws children is left unsecured, or where a tolerance of trespass can be shown to raise the expectation of continued trespass.
At one time, my family owned 5 farms. We were very opposed to posting. I had a property with 27 acres of wooded ground. My garage 32 × 40 was shot twice in 2 years, indivuals attempted to throw my friends off of my property. Simultaneously during those two years, my neighbors barn and grain elevator were shot. Our property is now posted and will remain so. Hunters are their own worst enemy. After those experiences, I don’t blame anyone for posting. I don’t believe those were isolated incidents, I hear issues like that on a lot of properties which I ask and sometimes am denied permission.
Moreover, the RULWA shields landowners who DO opt to open their land for public use from liability, as long as any injury happens through negligence, rather than deliberate or willful acts on the landowner’s part.
How can a person find out if land is lean and green or if it’s registered as crop damage or reserve land property owners aren’t always honest when confronted
Keep out and reward us for that. Drunken louts who smoke in the woods, shoot at any noise, shit and leave toiet paper. Booze n beer cans. Do not pass this!!!
Pure BS excuse to be selfish.
What is the rules about safety zones ? So if my camp is to close to mine and hunt the border of my camp ? I’m afraid that my camp is going to shot what is the rules should I put up safety zones at border of my property?
I pick up garbage EVERY YEAR!
Exactly. I have that same problem in Lebanon Cty . Hunters by boat firing high powered rifles into private property from the Swatara Creek to take deer with no idea where the projectiles are ending up. Once again people are the problem.
Bring back food and clover
I am from Adams County Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania Game Commission is trying everything to increase license and tags to control the population of white tail deer but the problem is Posted Property in my area.
I agree with the prior comment that “The deer eat crops by night and then retreat to the posted land by day.”
If a land owner is benefiting from the “Clean and Green” then they should not get full tax benefit if they are not allowing access to Sportsman wanting to fish and hunt.
As long as this continues the Pennsylvania Game Comission is wasting there time trying to sell more license or extending seasons to control deer population.
Been saying this for a while…The deer know exactly where to go and when…we hunt 130 acres and seeing a deer is a treat anymore…it gets tons pressure..just over the ridge..neighbors 200 acres and roughly 75 deer hunker down..posted ..1 hunter …adjacent fields are loaded at night…PGC lost control in posted areas.
Nobody is liable for injury, any private owned land that is open for public recreation is protected under the RULWA act.
Exactly correct.
I don’t agree with letting just anyone on your land to hunt, there come liability with that, I grew up on a farm and also hunted, we let a few friends hunt that were not familiar with the property and one ended up shooting into a house over 350 yards away, fortunately nobody was hurt, that put a stop to it
Let them archery hunt or require they shoot from a stand so they are shooting into the ground. That’s what I do.
Been saying this for a while…The deer know exactly where to go and when…we hunt 130 acres and seeing a deer is a treat anymore…it gets tons pressure..just over the ridge..neighbors 200 acres and roughly 75 deer hunker down..posted ..1 hunter …adjacent fields are loaded at night…PGC lost control in posted areas.
Agreed
Clean n Green was NOT established to help the Hunters of Pennsylvania n for you to Arbitrarily suggest citizens should lose the Benefits just because you cannot Hunt on some of their land is Absurd ..It was implemented as a Tool to protect grow n enhance the Forests Farmland n Open Spaces for many many reasons … Beauty …Wildlife enhancement cleaner waterways n less toxins …less greenhouse gas emissions improved Air quality n on n on n on ! I’m an Avid Hunter and an even bigger land manager n wildlife improvement enthusiast …I’m 1000% on board to improve hunter access but the Millions of dollars garnered from hunting n allowed for the purchase of huge game lands for outdoorsmam ….is
More than adequate …Just shutting down a Great environmental subsidy to aid landowners with their Taxes soo YOU can Hunt Anywhere you want to .🙄🙄🙄.. is a lil bit Arrogant and Does NOT serve in the Best interest of Pennsylvania citizens or its Landowners !! RJS 😎🇺🇸
Perfectly saud
If I got to save 75%+ on my taxes in return for nothing more than owning my land, I wouldn’t like it if someone made me earn that subsidy either.
But my neighbors, who have to pay the taxes I don’t, might not like it so much. You want to post your woodlot, that’s fine. Just don’t turn around and demand that your neighbors subsidize you like some welfare queen.
So Kenneth do you own any property in the clean and green status. I’m guessing no. So I have just under 13 acres in the clean and green status and recieve a tax break. Also it’s a conservation easement. So your saying I should let anyone who wants to walk around my property, they should have the right to. How about if I show up with a group of people and have a party on your deck or maybe if you have a pool have a pool party. Private property means Private Property. We just got rid of one …….. that would let anyone in. Are you an elected official if so where?
It’s not private property if you are taking tax dollars! It becomes every tax paying citizen’s property. If you want it to be private pay your own taxes fully with no breaks and then you can manage however you want. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, as the old saying goes.
So I guess every city/town property that uses street lights is open for public use they have sidewalks streetlights ECT paid for by tax dollars guess while we are at it we should open up all electric easements to since the power company takes care of those clean and green has nothing to do with hunting or anyone of you idiots who want to be entitled to anything you want
Perfectly said
Even with the tax break I’m still paying taxes on my property. So how about if my land is open to the public I don’t pay any taxes
I can’t believe these so called hunters think it’s ok for anyone to trespass. Unreal must be fucking democrats
And I can’t believe that you think the government should force your neighbors to subsidize you in return for doing nothing other than sitting on a deed to 10+ acres of woodlands. Last time I checked, rewarding people for doing nothing was something only democrats did.
How about if you want to post your land, you pay taxes based on fair market value like I do for my deck and my pool, and not 99 cents per acre like some of the posted clean and green woodlots land around me?
I started posting my land because a hunter shot one of my cows thinking it was a bear. Her calf cried for days for its mama. When it isn’t posted, they don’t ask for permission.
Very sorry and saddened to hear this. These hunters can go to state gamelands, there all over Pennsylvania
Very good point!
Private land is private land just because it’s in clean and green doesn’t give the public a right to use it. I’m a farmer myself and no such thing will ever happen to allow the public on private property. One thing if it’s state owned. Everyone thinks it’s so easy and profitable to farm then do it. They give these brakes to keep to farms in business otherwise there would be none.
The article is about adding a hunting requirement for forest reserve land, the same way agricultural reserve land has to be open to public recreation. Unless I missed it, it does not mention agricultural use land (farms).
Under this proposal, the farmer could still post his land and keep it in clean and green, but the adjacent woodlots (where the crop-eating deer live) would either have to allow hunting or pay the same taxes as everyone else.
How can a person find out if land is lean and green or if it’s registered as crop damage or reserve land property owners aren’t always honest when confronted
I own 76 acres of land. I have had holes punctured in my barn and my mobile home and the hunters responsible were not on the property. I watched hunters beat me to my own hunting spot and take a deer. My hunting was ruined for the rest of the night and so was my temper.
Everything is posted for my livestock’s sake and my own. I do not want to be out brush hogging and have some idiot shooting rabbits. I do not want arrows piercing through my buildings anymore than I want bullets.
The tax break is not that big that if the state wants to allow people to randomly open my gates and forget to latch them and let my cows out onto a highway and get someone killed and leave me responsible, I do not need the tax break. The day the state can not respect my rights as a land owner/farmer is the day they can take me out of the program and I will not be paying any seven years roll back either. We are not talking a thousand acres here. There is a house at least every fifty. Game lands are reserved for a reason for people to hunt. This is my home, my children’s home, my garden and the area I hunt to provide for them.
Might I also add, I pay taxes on the land not the people who want be allowed to access it. I work for that tax break on my farm. When my cows sell for twenty-seven cents a pound at auction no one seems to think a farmer should be paid more. Now you want to walk the farm because you think it is unfair to give a farmer a tax break after they fed, hayed, watered, fenced and cleaned up after their livestock in all types of weather for under a dollar a pound in beef???
You want to hunt on my farm… then come on down in negative ten degrees and put the round bales out, brush hog through briars, set fence posts for days, fix the broken down tractor, birth a calf at one in the morning or chase the cows back in… for that you can hunt on my land and you got a friend for life. See you the following year and you can earn the privilege again.
Most of the reason why land is posted is there’s no respect for the landowners property. From cut fencing to cut down trees and everything in between from the so called “ sportsman “.
AMEN to that ! From experience!!
And picking up their garbage left under trees
I think the whole PA Game Commission needs overhauled. They absolutely should not be allowed onto private property without “ due cause “ or permission from the landowner. They should respect the 4 th Amendment and not participate in illegal search and seizure. I don’t get tax breaks for my land and I don’t want any. As always I do the same thing if your on my land do your business and get the F off you are not welcome here. I pay the taxes I pay for my license and have absolutely no voice in The rules and regulations. All of these offices should be voted on not appointed!
I agree with you 100% the game commission has people in charge who should not even be aloud in the woods let alone telling us what we can and can’t do.
There is no 4th amendment anymore! The Constitution has been ripped up an a DICTATORSHIP HAS TAKEN OVER!
My mommy and daddy didn’t leave me land, my wife and i work very hard to pay for what we purchased, although not 100s of acres but still good fishing and hunting. I for 1 am sick of picking up trash after people, I even placed a garbage can chained to a tree for them to deposit their trash and and it STILL winds up on the ground. We can’t police our ground 24/7 but I can promise you 2025 will probably be the last year it’s open to the public. It only takes a bad apple or 2 to spoil the whole cart for everyone.
I don’t post my land and let people hunt. My problem in the quads and side x sides driving through my woods. It isn’t just hunting season. We have no police in the area so we are on our own
So in your mind the only legitimate reason to preserve lands and forests is to allow people like you to hunt on it? Is hunting somehow the premier natura resource preservation practice? How delusional are you?
I post my land because I want to control WHO and WHEN people hunt on it. People have hunted my land for hundreds of years – people who know and respect that resource. Not entitled clowns like you.
The only entitled clown is the guy who demands that his neighbors subsidize him in return for nothing more than owning a woodlot. Depending on location, clean and green can result in a 75%+ reduction in taxes, and guess who has to pay those taxes you save on?
Unless you are a farmer actually farming your land, if you want to post it, the government should not force your neighbors to subsidize you.
The game commission needs to mind their own business if they would take care of the game lands like they should there would be deer on their to HUNT !!! Their is no cover and nothing for them to eat on the the game lands that why the farmers are bitching you people need to do your job!!!
I don’t understand the program at all other than it lets the government and other people know what you have going on in your life….just like everything else goin on this country! I have 73 acres that mommy and daddy didn’t leave me. I served my country and worked very hard for what I have. I do let people hunt my property as long as I have the same permission to hunt there. Fair is fair the way I see it. As far as posted property the PA GAME COMMISSION started that issue when this point restriction started. Everyone has that “monster buck” on their property and no one’s aloud on it. Just think back before the point restriction when there was large groups of guys driving deer from one property to the next cause nothin was posted. It all basically comes down to money and greed the way i see it reguardless of this clean and green project or not. There’s gotta be a catch or gig for someone other than these property owners getting a tax brake.
Agreed it’s all about the big buck. I live in Lebanon county and it’s like winning the lottery to get permission to hunt deer. When I started hunting you could get permission no problem anywhere.now Rich people will spend a fortune for land that has deer then that’s it posted signs up and the place u hunted since you were a kid is gone. It’s all about big antlers to me it sucks.
Clean and Green has NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING. It’s strictly a program to conserve open space.
Thank you. Clean and Green has nothing to do with hunting. It is about not developing your land. It is about keeping green space.
So its a tax break which requires nothing other than you to own a bunch of land? Sounds about right!
If you discontinue present “ Clean and Green “ program – many property owners will sell their farms or develop the land . We are third generation land / farm owners ( 110 acres approximately ) – if the taxes were higher and would have to increase land / farm lease to present farmers. Deer 🦌 are not a problem here .we post and only family members hunt and a few quests. I’m against being open th the public – liability and safety are our concerns … Go slow
Originally, Clean and Green was put in place to defer development until the county could enroll it in a conservation easement. This implies intent by owners to eventually give up all development rights for compensation. Each county is remiss if it is not doing so. Again, the conservation easement funding would be born by county tax payers.
Unless something has changed in the last decade. PA Clean and Green, in the category of Agriculture reserve, is open to the public for recreation. In addition to that, it is not permitted to be leased nor posted, “No Trespassing”. This is disconcerting, since it appears that local law enforcement, knowingly and unknowingly, will charge for trespassing. Thus creating a criminal record for those who are not aware of their recreational rights. District Justice and judges should be intervening but may not be aware as well.
An owner may place “reasonable” restrictions upon recreational activity at the time of enrollment with the county assessment office. The Chief assessor approves Restrictions and manages enforcement. Restrictions would apply to the owner. Ex “No 4 wheelers” restriction would apply to the current and subsequent Owner as well. Hunting can be restricted. Unfortunately, it is still only a $100 fine and that is hardly a deterrent to the Owner ignoring the agreement. I am not aware of any instances of enforcement even after providing facts and evidence to a chief assessor. The category of Agriculture reserve has devolved into Welfare for those fortunate enough to be able to afford 10+ acres. A perspective user should make a good faith attempt to contact the owner before entering the property. This is much easier now than when the law was approved in the early 1970s. I believe it was act 137 or 137a.??
The category of forest reserve requires it to be a managed crop. IE managed by a Forester. To my knowledge, this is not enforced.
These categories can and should be divided upon a parcel based upon its use or potential use. Ex a 90 acre farm with 1/3 treed mountain ground and 1/3 in a flood plain that restricts farming would have all three categories.
There five year review and revision process. Participants are appointed by the Governor. Appointment categories are heavily weighted in favor of land owners.
BTW If you pay taxes, you don’t own “your” land.
Like so many things, what started out as a good thing ends up getting abused in ways those who created it never intended. Such is life https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-senate-david-mccormick-estate-tax-breaks/
The article only mentions changing the requirements for forest reserve land to bring them more in line with agricultural reserve land (which already requires public access). Agricultural use land (farms) would remain unchanged, except that the owners of the posted woodlots next to them where the crop-eating deer live would have to pay fair market value for their land or open it up to hunting.
So if anything, it would reduce crop damage for farmers while still allowing them to remain in clean and green and post their land.
Clean & Green is a federal program introduced during the Jimmy Carter presidency. Clean & Green is designed to conserve land; primarily to prevent development of open spaces. As a Clean & Green landowner in PA I can assure you I pay as much for taxes as residential properties in my nearby county where properties are conservatively $350k-$550k.
I fail to see any correlation between public hunters access to Clean & Green privately owned property.
Couldn’t agree more, everyone on here complaining how they should have access to someone’s private property that they’ve agreed to keep a certain way for a tax break is ridiculous. Are they going to want access to homesteads next? They get a tax break. They should go buy their own land where they can afford it, if they can’t buy the land then lease, of they can’t lease then go to public land. Not complicated.
If homestead tax breaks slashed taxes by 75%+ like clean and green can do, then I would say yes https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-senate-david-mccormick-estate-tax-breaks/
Unfortunately (for the homeowners), they usually only see a couple hundred buck in savings.
The taxes you don’t pay, don’t magically disappear. Your neighbors have to pay those taxes you save on. If you want the government to force your neighbors to subsidize you, you should have to offer something of value in return, especially when clean and green can dump 75%+ of your tax burden on your neighbors. https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-senate-david-mccormick-estate-tax-breaks/
As a land owner in Allegheny County, I do not currently benefit from the Clean and Green, but have submitted for consideration and thus far been unsuccessful. I pay taxes as every other land or home owner but there is no structure on my property, and I do not have kids that benefit from the school taxes I pay.
I could choose to timber my property or sell it to a developer who would subdivide it and make much more than what I did off the deal, and no hunting would be able to occur.
I do not want other hunters on my land. It’s difficult enough keeping the known poachers in the area off or prevent drive by hunting. My ability to get a tax deduction on something I pay for does not entitle you or anyone else to use the property. The property is my family to hunt on only. When you get other tax breaks that are available no one shows up to your home to say you owe them something. At this point I will never allow a non-family member on my property because of the entitlement and lack of respect for the law with trespassers and poachers.
Is the 1.5 million acres of State Game Lands not enough for you to hunt on? We land owners are paying property taxes (even at a lower rate) for you freeloaders to be able to hunt already! I would happily get out of clean and green and pay the additional taxes if there was no back tax penalty (I bought
land that was previously enrolled under clean and green for a long time by a previous land owner). I would love to be able to develop it as I see fit. And the additional tax dollars are mouse nuts – compared to the amount of time and money I have put i to my land to make it a good hunting environment. (Which is presumably why you want to hunt my land – and not the state land? Are you going to compensate me for that?) If you were to start allowing hunting which was not part of the previous agreement- then you would have to change the tax rollback liability. Do that and see how many people stay enrolled. I also do not believe anyone with respect to liability of people on your land… if they get shot or fall in an old well… YOU are going to get sued and will have to pay to defend. If people destroy something or litter or require cleanup /fix up of any kind – THE LAND OWNER- will end up paying for it. Even if someone is well intentioned – which is very few – they likely wouldn’t be able to afford to fix it – which is why they don’t own land in the first place…
I have 35 acres in clean and green and glad for the tax break. Deer come to the fields to feed them go to neighboring land to bed, which is posted. I’m in a lease on 1 bordering property so I and my grandson have access to better hunting. Opening c& g properties to public hunting would only create more problems. The state has millions of acres to hunt. And yes, there are deer on it. If you want good land to hunt, search and buy. But don’t tell someone what they can do with their own land. The government already does that
Thank you, John! Couldn’t agree more.
Yes I am sure you are glad for the tax break. I’d be glad if the government decided to give me a giant tax break for doing nothing more than owning my land. https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-senate-david-mccormick-estate-tax-breaks/
My neighbors, who would be forced to pay those taxes that I don’t, might not appreciate it, though.
Clean and green was designed to protect agricultural land from commercial development. That was it, period. Our local rep, Bud Dwyer, abstained on almost every roll all vote except that one.. His father was in realestate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn’t old enough to remember.
If you want land to hunt on, do like the farmer and pay for it. He did.
Their profit margin is not high but the overhead is. Why should they let anyone on it but those they want and trust? They are not receiving
Tax dollars, just getting a break so it doesn’t end up in developments
or golf courses like much of Ohio has.
Unless I misread, the article only talks about reforming Forest Reserve lands, including the posted woodlands next to farms where the crop-eating deer live. Agricultural Use Land (farmland) could still be posted.
We have farmers in clearfield area that claim crop damage and they shoot the deer before the season even starts. They drop all the bucks first then shot the does. Mean while they do it over standing crops that they do not sell. If we were to hunt over standing crop we would be arrested straight out because the game commission calls it baiting. The farmers in the older days really didn’t care , deer have to eat to is exactly what they would say. I can remember spotting at night before deer season and seeing a hundred plus deer in 1 field along with maybe 1 or 2 bears with cubs. That was back when the farmers were only allowed a couple deer and not allowed to give it away like the law stated.i
I don’t know who does the counting for the game commission but there is no way we have that many deer anymore. Except down around Philadelphia. The game commission needs to lower the amount of tags for doe and shorten the archery season. Just because they see maybe 15 deer in one field doesn’t mean that is the way for other fields. There is a property out on the mountain that plants corn in little patches, has mineral sights and other baiting area’s for deer and bear. They have so many highest lawyers that are members that they can argue the laws to their advantage . Then they drive the deer off neighbors property onto theirs witch is nearly 1,500 acres. Back in the 1970’s the game commission planted corn and hay fields way back in the mountains on state game lands, not any more. Reason stated was not enough money. They have plenty of money to plant just don’t want to. They need to change the rules for this clean and green so you can’t post it or lease it out and revamp the game commission in a whole to update their expenses and budget. The game commission just voted not to extend deer season for archer’s witch is good. They should make a 2 week hunting season for older and disabled hunters so they have a chance to get their deer in better weather . If you have 1,000 archers who have a buck Tage and 5 doe tags and every one, how many deer does that allow for rifle hunters? NOT MANY. But according to the game commission statistics on how many deer their really are. Is VERY FEW.
This program also keeps ppl from breaking up land. I have another building right on my property, but can’t use it unless I pay all the breaks back. Look at Harford county md now and 20 years ago. It is sickening growth of townhouses and condos….completely unrecognizable.
Maybe the state should not allow land owners to receive extra deer tags for damaged crops. This would make farmers allow more hunters with deer tags on their land to harvest their deer instead of only allowing their freinds and family. Most hunters are good and respectful of people’s land.
These people OWN their land. Public lands are available. Then why wouldn’t I be allowed to come on your property whenever I want. Maybe have a picnic in your backyard, swim in your pool. I t is everyone ‘s rights to protect what is their’s. Some people just have no respect for others.
If you don’t want people on your land then pay the same tax rate as your neighbors do for their backyard or pool. Stop demanding that they be forced to subsidize you as a reward for you owning a lot of woodlands.
When will the game commission wake up i have 1 buck tag what does it matter when I fill it. For years I have to pass up a nice buck in muzzelloder season because of the doe only rule. My wife is handicap ♿️ and the same for her. But that buck walks past a archery hunter he gets the prize. Bad enough we don’t get to hunt the rut. Please game commission give me a logical answer for this stupid rule. D
I own 200 acres in Central Pennsylvania, never used to post. It is surrounded by public land. I now post due to bad experiences with hunters that have come in from the public land. i’ve have groups of hunters tried to kick me off my own property that I have paid taxes and insuranceon. I’ve had hunters cut my cattle fences and use the fence for a drag rope. I do not want to be liable for anybody who gets injured on my property. Our deer populations in my area are about as low as they have been in a long time I think people who complain about crop damage should allow hunting on their property. I am retired. The clean and green program allows me to hold onto my property because I do pay a lower tax on the property. Do not change anything with clean green.
So no more personal property rights? This has to be a libtard righting this commentary. First off tax is being paid by the property owner, just not full price. Secondly, a large reason why there is clean and green is to preserve the land, and to keep it rural for farm land. Thirdly , if you want private hunting land the go buy it. I guess you want the government to make that possible just for you. And lastetly, if you owned it, your the one that would go apex if someone had half their foot on any of it.
The only libtard I see is the guy demanding that the government force his neighbors to subsidize him as a reward for owning woodlands. Depending on where you are at, clean and green can result in a $700,000 woodlot getting assessed at $7,000, with the neighbors being forced to make up the difference.
If you want to post your land fine, just stop demanding that the government force other people to pay your share.